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Re: Rover Adverts 1930-1935
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Re: Rover Adverts 1930-1935
In the discussion on Streamlines of the '30s, it has been stated by several writers that they were available in both 4-light and 6-light forms. I have seen no evidence to support this. All extant examples seem to be the same body. Also, how many were built? Not all Speed 14s were Streamlines (I know of Hastings Coupe and a Sports Saloon Speed 14s). Could the Streamline body be bought on a standard Rover 14 chassis or were all Streamlines triple carb, high comp jobs?
Re: Rover Adverts 1930-1935
Hello there James
I feel we have two different subjects getting slightly intermixed. Streamline models and speed models
Streamline refers to a streamline body shape which was only available for the model years 1935 and 1936. This body was available on the the Rover 14 chassis and engine in 3 different models.
The Streamline speed 14 coupe model in 4 light form on the 14 chassis and engine but with triple carbs, polished ports etc, Rudge-Whitworth knock on splined wheels and tripod front light arrangement.
The Streamline 14 coupe model also in 4 light form but otherwise standard 14 chassis and engine.
The Streamline 14 saloon model was in 6 light form otherwise standard 14 chassis and engine, however due to the 2 extra lights not quite as streamlined in appearance as the coupe models.
Speed refers to the usually sporty engines, mainly on 14 models, but a few appeared on 20 models in the early 1930's, with in most cases triple carbs. They appeared as optional for a number of models from 1930 to 1936 usually in coupe, tourer or sports saloon form and included such names as Meteors, Pilots, Hastings.
It is difficult to say how many of any of these models were built because the Rover Companies pre-war records were all lost in the Blitz. However we do have examples of most models in the RSR, but unfortunately the majority are in various states of restoration.
Kind regards
Andrew
I feel we have two different subjects getting slightly intermixed. Streamline models and speed models
Streamline refers to a streamline body shape which was only available for the model years 1935 and 1936. This body was available on the the Rover 14 chassis and engine in 3 different models.
The Streamline speed 14 coupe model in 4 light form on the 14 chassis and engine but with triple carbs, polished ports etc, Rudge-Whitworth knock on splined wheels and tripod front light arrangement.
The Streamline 14 coupe model also in 4 light form but otherwise standard 14 chassis and engine.
The Streamline 14 saloon model was in 6 light form otherwise standard 14 chassis and engine, however due to the 2 extra lights not quite as streamlined in appearance as the coupe models.
Speed refers to the usually sporty engines, mainly on 14 models, but a few appeared on 20 models in the early 1930's, with in most cases triple carbs. They appeared as optional for a number of models from 1930 to 1936 usually in coupe, tourer or sports saloon form and included such names as Meteors, Pilots, Hastings.
It is difficult to say how many of any of these models were built because the Rover Companies pre-war records were all lost in the Blitz. However we do have examples of most models in the RSR, but unfortunately the majority are in various states of restoration.
Kind regards
Andrew
Re: Rover Adverts 1930-1935
Andrew, Maybe James is getting the two models 'slightly intermixed' because of the different names that Australian cars were given. Whether they were given different names by Rover or possibly by Australian vendors themselves I am not sure.
My 16 Sport Saloon was known as a Sportsman when I bought it in Australia and everyone I spoke to in Australia refered to it as a Sportsman.
Maybe the English language is not so intercontinental after all
My 16 Sport Saloon was known as a Sportsman when I bought it in Australia and everyone I spoke to in Australia refered to it as a Sportsman.
Maybe the English language is not so intercontinental after all
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Re: Rover Adverts 1930-1935
In the UK the term was used for postwar P2 and P3 4 light models by journalists but not officially by Rover who continued to use "Sports" for its 4 light P2's. Prewar it was also just "Sports" in Rovers adverts for the 4 light saloons.
Sportsman does not sound like a Rover term although the prototype low roofed P5 3 litre did use it but it used "Coupe" in the end for production even though it was a 4 door as Coupes like the prewar 2 door Rover 10 are supposed to be apparently
Sportsman does not sound like a Rover term although the prototype low roofed P5 3 litre did use it but it used "Coupe" in the end for production even though it was a 4 door as Coupes like the prewar 2 door Rover 10 are supposed to be apparently
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Re: Rover Adverts 1930-1935
John and Phil
I agree Rovers UK publicity always used 'Saloon' for the six light and 'Sports Saloon' for the four light.
However, out of interest, when I was the Pre 1950 Registrar I noticed there were a number of variants used when overseas members gave their cars details, not only in Australia but Canada the United States and many of the European countries. 'Sportsman' in particular was often used to describe the Sports saloon in these countries, and I seem to recall 'Sedan' and even 'Limousine' being used on a few occasion.
In prewar days many P1 Rovers were shipped out to Australia basis chassis and engine, with the bodies built under licence and fitted in Australia. These Australian built bodies often seemed to acquire slightly differing style and even model name from those Rover used in the UK. In fact on the archive database we have 2 P1 Rovers described as 'Rover 14 Utes' ie front cab only and a flat back.
However as far as I am aware all the P2 models were shipped out in completed form as 'export models' with either left or right hand drive.
Regards Andrew
I agree Rovers UK publicity always used 'Saloon' for the six light and 'Sports Saloon' for the four light.
However, out of interest, when I was the Pre 1950 Registrar I noticed there were a number of variants used when overseas members gave their cars details, not only in Australia but Canada the United States and many of the European countries. 'Sportsman' in particular was often used to describe the Sports saloon in these countries, and I seem to recall 'Sedan' and even 'Limousine' being used on a few occasion.
In prewar days many P1 Rovers were shipped out to Australia basis chassis and engine, with the bodies built under licence and fitted in Australia. These Australian built bodies often seemed to acquire slightly differing style and even model name from those Rover used in the UK. In fact on the archive database we have 2 P1 Rovers described as 'Rover 14 Utes' ie front cab only and a flat back.
However as far as I am aware all the P2 models were shipped out in completed form as 'export models' with either left or right hand drive.
Regards Andrew
Re: Rover Adverts 1930-1935
Hi Jim,
There is at least one 6-light still in existance, I've seen it. It belongs to Mike Evans.
Regards
Stewart
There is at least one 6-light still in existance, I've seen it. It belongs to Mike Evans.
Regards
Stewart